O’Sullivan said he “really needs to leave” after facing tough questions about his multiple passports and business interests.

Before the break, O’Sullivan had a heated argument with MK Party MP David Skosana who grilled him over his links as spy for the  United Kingdom (UK).

At the centre of the confrontation of all the drama was O’Sullivan’s UK military number: 24302818.

Skhosana pressed him on whether the number was linked to UK military intelligence service between 1972 and 1977.

“I do not have an “army number. I do not know what the MP is referring to. I have never been a spy. I have served South Africa “faithfully for 36 years. If i’m going to be called a spy again, I would stop answering questions,” he said.

This was the first warning shot from O’Sullivan to MP’s that if they continued cornering, he was going walk out.

Indeed few minutes later, the MP’s continued grilling O’Sullivan about his links with international crime syndicates.

He flatly denied any involvement in criminal networks.

EFF leader Julius Malema firmly stated: “He is not going to leave!” No witness can walk out without being formally excused by the chairperson,” he said.

MK Party Skhosana became visibly angry during the exchange, he stood up and shouted as he attempted to leave, but O’Sullivan ignored the confrontation and walked out of the venue.

“You’re not going anywhere. No one has authorised you to leave the chamber,” he argued as he tried to stop at the exit door.

After O’Sullivan’s walked out, several MP’s attacked Ashley Sauls who haf earlier on called him a hero.

“Mr O’Sullivan, you are a hero. Thank you so much for fighting corruption in this country.” Later on Sauls conceded that O’Sullivan was a hero with holes.

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He insists he appeared to give evidence on corruption in the criminal justice system and warns that if the hearing turns into a “kangaroo court” focused on defending himself, he will not continue assisting the committee.

It seemed as if O’Sullivan was angered by EFF leader Julius Malema who requesting that their legal team or parliamentary secretary to get the Acsa advert where they were advertising the position which they offered to O’Sullivan.

O’Sullivan jumped and said:

“Am I here to give evidence or to be interrogated? I am going to withdraw my cooperation. I am not going to assist in a kangaroo court. I came here to give evidence about the corruption in the criminal justice system which has resulted in the mess that we have in the criminal justice system today.

“The false allegations that have been made against me will take a lot more than an hour to get through. And if it’s going to be curtailed because people don’t want to hear the truth, it means what we’re actually doing is not allowing a witness to explain why this happened and why that happened.”

He further accused other witnesses of peddling false narratives that he had infiltrated the Independent Police Investigative Directorate (IPID), the National Prosecuting Authority (NPA) and the South African Police Service (SAPS) for ulterior motives.

“What I cannot contemplate is that everyone should think I woke up one day and decided to infiltrate IPID, the police and the NPA, because that pack of lies has been peddled in this House by multiple witnesses that belong in prison.

“I didn’t come here just to defend myself against the allegations of criminals. And if that’s the only thing the committee wants to hear, then it will be a problem, because the reality is that those allegations were only made against me because I took steps to hold them accountable for their criminal conduct,” he said.

O’Sullivan will continue with his testimony today at 10:00am.

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O’Sullivan is giving evidence before the SAPS Ad Hoc Committee on Tuesday.

Under oath, O’Sullivan stated that in his 40 years in South Africa and he has never performed any foreign agent activities and that his loyalty is to South Africa.

O’Sullivan explained that holding multiple passports was purely for travel convenience and emphasized that he has never supported any foreign government.

He also confirmed that his NGO, Forensics for Justice, receives no foreign funding and is fully transparent about donations, which are mostly small contributions from ordinary citizens.

A major focus is his multiple citizenships including Ireland as he had Irish parents, the UK because he was boorn there, and South Africa where he was naturalised as he has been living here for over 40 years.

Under questioning, O’Sullivan said:

“I can categorically state that I have not performed any foreign agent activities in 40 years, and in fact my loyalty is to South Africa.”

When he was asked about multiple passports he said:

“It’s very easy to have foreign passports because it’s very convenient to be able to travel around the world. The multiple passports story is a convenience.”

And on foreign funding for his NGO:

“We do not receive any foreign funding… From 2015 until present, anybody can look at our accounts, most years we’re lucky if we get R100,000 in donations for a year.”

O’Sullivan’s testimony comes amid ongoing investigations into senior policing figures and allegations of corruption, including the case of former Police Commissioner Jackie Selebi.

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O’Sullivan’s affidavit contained a condition on paragraph 3 where he stated that he will not answer anything beyond 1990.

This angered most of the honourable members from Umkhonto Wesizwe Party, Economic Freedom Fighters and ActionSA.

O’Sullivan told the AdHocCommittee he won’t answer questions about events before 1990 because of serious personal security concerns, citing multiple attempts on his life.

He argued that providing such information could expose personal details and put him and his family at risk, which he is entitled to protect.

“I made it clear that I’m not going to be providing any of that information, it’s just not going to be advanced and we can sit here all day and you can ask me a million questions I will not provide that information,’ he said.

Economic Freedom Fighter (EFF) leader Julius Malema was the first one to object the condition put forward by O’Sullivan.

“He can’t say to us we can’t ask him anything about things that happened before 90 what if the business you are talking about started engaging in wrongdoing before 1990,” he said.

MKP David Skosana also jumped in and question his background.

“This affidavit does not have an introduction. We don’t know the man seating before. There is nothing talking about where he was born, where he grew up and the schools he went to. Nothing. Even you chair, you don’t know this man,” he said.

ActionSA’s Dereleen James said: “Every witness that has come before us had a CV. Where is the CV of the witness? He can’t just come here and tell us to dance to his tune.”

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Ntuli called the latest criticism labeling it as unfair attacks and unjustified and misdirected.

In a virtual interview on SABC News, ANC Chief Whip Mdumiseni Ntuli defended National Assembly Speaker Thoko Didiza against criticism for declining to issue subpoenas for forensic investigator Paul O’Sullivan and businessman Brown Mogotsi to appear before Parliament’s Ad Hoc Committee.

Ntuli described the attacks on Didiza as unjustified and misdirected, insisting she is ensuring proper procedure is followed.

Ntuli, a member of the committee probing misconduct and infiltration in the criminal justice system, said Didiza wants decisions safeguarded from court challenges.

He explained that the committee must address security concerns raised by O’Sullivan (currently in the UK with death threats) and Mogotsi (demanding funded protection) before forcing in-person appearances.

O’Sullivan left the country with his seven kids.

He rejected claims of undue delay, noting correspondence with the Speaker began late last year, with responses from O’Sullivan in December and January.

Ntuli stressed unanimity on holding O’Sullivan accountable for alleged contempt toward Parliament, while warning that bypassing process could embarrass the committee legally.

The ANC maintains Didiza’s guidance protects the inquiry’s integrity.

The committee continues its work toward the mid-February deadline, with Ntuli calling for responsibility rather than shifting blame to the Speaker.

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