The National Assembly debated on whether or not to undertake or reject the Section 89 Panel’s report over the Phala Phala housebreaking on Tuesday, 13 December. If the movement handed, President Ramaphosa would have confronted an impeachment inquiry.
The report mentioned there was prima facie proof that Ramaphosa violated his oath of workplace and broke anti-corruption legal guidelines by failing to report the theft of hundreds of thousands of rand in US {dollars} from his farm. He allegedly had the matter investigated by his Presidential Protection Unit.
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PHALA PHALA DEBATE SEES ANC BACK RAMAPHOSA
17:38 –
Votes
Yes – 148
No – 214
Abstain – 2
‘The S89 inquiry will not be proceeded with. That concludes the business of the day and the house is adjourned,’ mentioned the Speaker.
17:29 – After being petitioned by Malema and Steenhuisen and a dialog with a parliament official, the Speaker decides that the ‘accidental’ vote by Thandi Mahambehlala will stand and stay in favour of the adoption of the S89 report. The vote is now closed.
17:24 – The Speaker says there’s a provision for Chief Whips to make corrections throughout digital voting. Malema challenges the Speaker and makes an instance that if he solid a vote at a poll field, he can not change his vote.
17:19 – The Speaker offers members who could have voted incorrectly a possibility to alter their vote. Thandi Mahambehlala adjustments her vote from sure to no. The DA Chief Whip protests towards the transfer saying there isn’t any provision for it.
While voting, Mahambehlala repeatedly mentioned ‘party line’ as a substitute of answering correctly. When the Speaker insisted she vote sure, no or abstain, she blurted ‘Yes.’
17:16 – Patricia de Lille and Brett Heron decide to abstain from the vote. COPE’s Willie Madisha is the primary opposition get together member to vote towards the vote, he’s adopted by Al Jama-ah’s Ganief Hendricks who additionally votes no. The ANC MPs fortunately cheer their votes.
17:09 – EFF leaders Julius Malema and Floyd Shivambu vote subsequent. They name for the adoption of the report, setting the tone for the get together. No MPs within the DA – who voted earlier than the EFF -broke the get together line.
17:00 – Steenhuisen votes first for the DA and votes in favour of the adoption of the report. His fellow MPs observe and echo his reply.
16:59 – The Speaker of the House tells MPs that there’s a member who requires medical consideration. The incident occurred instantly after MJ Zwane voted for the adoption of the report. Voting continues.
16:58 – Mosebenzi Joseph Zwane is the fifth ANC MP to vote for the adoption of the S89 report.
16:49 – Thandi Mahambehlala and Supra Mahumapelo voted in favour of the adoption of the report, taking the votes towards the get together line to 4.
16:45 – Mervyn Dirks is the second ANC MP to vote in favour of the adoption of the report.
16:41 – So far, each ANC member after NDZ has voted towards the adoption of the report. Many of them put on smiles and their quips are adopted by audible giggles from their fellow get together members.
16:36 – Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma votes in favour of the Section 89 report and the chamber erupts. She says ‘As a disciplined member of the ANC, I vote yes.’
16:35 – ANC Chief Whip Pemmy Majodina is the primary MP referred to as to vote adopted by Deputy President David Mabuza. Unsurprisingly, they voted towards the adoption of the report. The DA would be the subsequent get together to vote.
16:32 – The UDM’s Nqabayomzi Kwankwa says the decision for a secret poll is supposed to guard the integrity of the method. The Speaker initially reduce him off saying he’s repeating what the EFF mentioned.
16:30 – Shivambu says they’ll strategy the courts for a judicial overview that can search to carry the Speaker accountable over her insistence to have an open poll. ‘We are going to take you to court and you are not going to win this.’
16:28 – The Speaker asks Members of Parliament to assist the method by stating “Yes, No or Abstain” when they’re referred to as to vote and nothing else.
16:25 – Malema says the EFF has it on good authority that the Speaker has been threatened if she allowed a secret poll. Mapisa-Nqakula says she is just not intimidated simply and is a fighter as Malema refers to himself.
16:15 – The DA requires a division. The bells, which name MPs to vote, will probably be rung for 10 minutes. The Speaker beforehand acceded to a request for a roll-call vote. After the doorways are locked, MPs will probably be referred to as by title to vote for or towards the report.
16:08 – Mapisa-Nqakula says Heron’s proposal ought to have been put ahead at first of proceedings and subsequently inappropriate. Mapisa-Nqakula rejects the proposal.
16:05 – The debate is concluded. Speaker Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula asks the House whether or not there are any objections. Heron proposes that the NA defers the institution of an impeachment inquiry whereas the President’s software is earlier than the ConCourt.
Mapisa-Nqakula says Heron’s proposal ought to have been put ahead at first of proceedings and subsequently inappropriate. Mapisa-Nqakula rejects the proposal.
15:37 – ANC MP Qubudile Dyantyi says the opposition seeks the ANC’s demise ‘by hook or by crook.’ He says opposition events ignore the individuals’s mandate, which is what gave the ANC its energy.
Dyantyi says the S89 panel itself is uncertain of its personal report. Like Lamola, the MP casts doubts on whether or not the panel’s findings are sufficient to question a sitting president.
15:53 – The DA’s Chief Whip Siviwe Gwarube says MPs will select a coverup over accountability once more in the event that they vote towards the adoption of the report.
15:50 – Al Jama-ah’s Ganief Hendricks says the get together will vote towards the adoption of the report.
15:48 – The PAC’s Mzwanele Nyhontso says it’s a cut-and-dry matter – Ramaphosa have to be probed. He provides the ‘tsotsi element’ has taken over the ANC and thieves rule the roost.
‘It is questionable whether they in the liberation movement to fight for the restoration of human dignity and total freedom of a colonised African people,’ says Nyhontso.
15:31 – Lamola says one of many causes the ANC will reject the adoption of the S89 report is as a result of there’s not ample proof to name for an impeachment inquiry. He says the panel may’ve requested for extra time earlier than submitting the report.
15:28 – Justice Minister Ronald Lamola says Ramaphosa is effectively inside his rights to overview the report. He says events within the National Assembly go to courtroom each day over parliamentary issues.
15:26 – The NFP’s Shaik Emam says the S89 report have to be adopted, nevertheless, the get together won’t agree with the impeachment course of till Ramaphosa’s ConCourt overview is accomplished. ‘It’s his Constitutional proper to take the matter on overview whether or not we prefer it or not.’
15:23 – Brett Heron, of the Good Party, says the get together respects the President’s option to have the report reviewed as there are irregularities in it. He says the impeachment committee must be deferred pending the report’s overview.
15:19 – ATM chief Vuyo Zungula says at the moment is a watershed second for parliament. As the home will show whether or not the regulation is equal for all via its vote. Zungula asks why Ramaphosa is combating towards a course of that might clear his title if he has nothing to cover.
15:16 – UDM chief Bantu Holomisa says the primary gamers – Ramaphosa, Arthur Fraser and Hazim Mustafa – within the theft have to be referred to as to present their account of the story. Hazim is the alleged buffalo purchaser. ‘Let there now be a full inquiry by parliament.’
15:13 – ACDP chief Kenneth Meshoe says Ramaphosa has a case to reply and even when ANC MPs vote towards the adoption of the report, the matter won’t go away.
15:10 – FF+ chief Pieter Groenewald says if Ramaphosa respects the Constitution he’ll come ahead to the National Assembly and submit himself to the parliamentary course of.
He says there are a selection of widespread sense questions desires solutions to. By not answering these questions, the President is kicking residents within the tooth and inserting the ANC’s pursuits above that of the nation.
15:06 – The IFP says it helps the findings of the Section 89 report and says the nation can not belief Ramaphosa anymore.
15:02 – ‘It is this man who held the hand of Nelson Mandela and said the Constitution of South Africa is above all of us. Today, it is the same man who is peeing on the Constitution of South Africa,’ concludes Malema.
14:59 – Malema says he warned Ramaphosa that the Ruperts and Oppenheimers wouldn’t be there to guard him when the House calls for accountability. ‘Today we are touching you because we are not in the pockets of your faction and handlers.’
14:56 – EFF chief Julius Malema says Ramaphosa stands as the best enemy of Constitutionalism regardless of being a founder thereof. ‘You have decided to spit into the face of the freedoms of institutions so many fought and died for.’
14:52 – ‘As long as you’ve obtained the numbers in parliament, you may make any scandal go away,’ says Steenhuisen. He says Ramaphosa is not any totally different to Zuma if the ANC MPs vote towards adopting the Phala Phala report.
14:48 – The chief of the opposition, John Steenhuisen, takes the rostrum. He says Ramaphosa was able to resign 11 days in the past as a result of he needed to keep away from the choice – an impeachment inquiry.
Steenhuisen says Ramaphosa needed to resign to keep away from answering questions in regards to the Phala Phala theft below oath. He says the President solely determined towards resignation after ANC MPs satisfied him they’d make the questions go away.
14:40 – Mapisa-Nqakula guidelines that the House proceeds with the talk of the report. The first MP to take the rostrum is ANC Chief Whip Pemmy Majodina.
14:35 – EFF MP Veronica Mente asks Mapisa-Nqakula to take 5 minutes to ‘apply her mind’ and rethink her determination to have an open poll. Mente says individuals will die and the Speaker can have blood on her palms. Zungula agrees and additionally asks for the 5 minutes
14:30 – EFF chief Julius Malema mentioned MPs acquired demise threats after the Speaker rejected the decision for a secret poll vote. He asks her to rethink her determination. The Speaker says not one of the details about the threats was contained in letters of enchantment.
She acknowledges {that a} case has been reported to the police on Tuesday morning. ‘I have made a determination on the basis of your submissions,’ says Mapisa-Nqakula.
I’ve made a dedication on the idea of your submissions,’ says Mapisa-Nqakula. The police are at present investigating the alleged demise threats. The Speaker says the demise threats should not a matter for dialogue however the report is.
14:24 – ATM chief Vuyolwethu Zungula desires to know why the Speaker doesn’t contemplate threats that MPs can be expelled in the event that they go towards get together traces within the vote purpose sufficient to make use of a secret poll.
14:18 – Speaker, Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula, says she thought of the key poll request and will stick along with her unique determination to go along with an open poll. She says she doesn’t consider the ‘atmosphere is so toxified’ that MPs can be unable to vote freely.
Shivambu is dissatisfied with the choice and requires division on the matter and desires MPs to vote. He desires the division to be secret as effectively.
14:11 – The EFF’s Floyd Shivambu raises on a degree of order and says it’s irrational to ask for MPs to vote for the impeachment of a president on an open poll. Some MPs requested for a secret poll after Tuesday’s debate, which the Speaker rejected.
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